| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Wandee Kirkland |
| Date Created | 2/21/2003 3:24:19 PM |
| Message | I'd like to join on this ride, but I'm not yet a member of PARR. I just filled out the application form, but need to mail in the release form and pay the application fee. I was also wondering if I could get a mentor for a while. I've only been riding since October '02 and haven't had the chance to ride in a large group. I've only ridden with friends in a group of three. I live in Centreville, VA near Westfields. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
And also, I'm a male, 26 yrs old. I ride a Yamaha Seca II. Good beginner's bike from what I read and fairly cheap. Hope this helps. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | RonP |
| Date Created | 2/21/2003 4:48:15 PM |
| Message | Wandee,
Come check us out. Releases should be available from a member on all open rides. We may be able to rearrange the group if you need to ride at a different pace. Watch this thread for more details as next weekend gets closer.
Ron |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Ed "Deerslayer" Naidamast |
| Date Created | 2/21/2003 7:07:40 PM |
| Message | Dave, weather guessers can't predict how much toilet paper they'll need to wipe their butts this far in advance, let alone predict the weather. By proposing that the first Sunday in March ride be switched to Saturday you're kind of taking on the responsibility of suggesting a "pick-up" ride. Among other things you may want to check with our Road Captain to clear it through him as a precaution.
May I also suggest that you agree to monitor the weather as next weekend approaches and that you post a final "go" or "no-go" message here no later than around Friday evening at 8:30-9:00 p.m. This way, based upon the latest weather reports you can make a final decision about riding on Saturday or Sunday. It is very possible that any precipitation called for on Sunday may arrive by Saturday or the rain may not even materialize and you may find Sunday predicted to be a nicer day.
I've organized a slew of pick-up rides and those who ride appreciate having someone monitor the weather and take charge of making the call. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | JACK |
| Date Created | 2/23/2003 11:28:50 AM |
| Message | Hi Dave:
I happen to agree with ED, for selfish reasons I must admit. I can't ride on Saturday's because of my work schedule. Lets keep the Sunday ride on Sunday, if the weather is bad then we won't ride. If you want to organize a pickup ride for Saturday that's fine. If the weather turns out good we could have two rides over the weekend.
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Ed "Deerslayer" Naidamast |
| Date Created | 2/23/2003 9:35:59 PM |
| Message | I wasn't necessarily suggesting that the ride not be switched--after all, if rain is anticipated on Sunday than Saturday seems to be a reasonable switch, but it should really be seen more as a pick-up ride. Still, someone needs to monitor the weather and post a "go" or "no-go" so prospective riders know what the plans are. Meanwhile, I haven't seen anyone mention anything about leading the Sunday ride.
Most important of all, let's not get everybody and everything confused.
Also, no one invited the applicant who posted a note on this thread to join the ride. I'd encourage him to ride if the weather is good, but he should bring his driver's license to show his motorcycle endorsement (I learned my lesson on a pick-up ride this past summer when our friend Bill failed to negotiate a turn and turned out to not have a license!!!) and someone should bring a ride waiver for him to sign.
Regards. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Dave Robinson |
| Date Created | 2/24/2003 8:47:26 AM |
| Message | Man, how could I have committed such a faux pas?! You're absolutely right, Ed--I should have offered a pick-up ride. So, I'm offering a pick-up ride on Saturday, with departure from the Colonade shopping center at 10:00 a.m. (to give the roads time to dry and thaw any ice). I'm thinking of a not-too-strenuous ride through the farmlands south and west of Manassas. No particular route in mind yet, but probably less than 100 miles with lunch at a roadside mom&pop somewhere.
Ed: Do pickup rides require releases and such, same as regularly scheduled group rides? Also, you're right about the weatherman--forecasts now call for a partly-cloudy 45-degree Sunday. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Wandee Kirkland |
| Date Created | 2/24/2003 2:04:38 PM |
| Message | I have my motorcycle endorsement, my MSF rider course completion card, and my AMA membership card. If there is anything else you need, I'll bring it too. I wouldn't bother riding without my motorcycle endorsement. That's not very smart. Thanks for giving me the benefit of doubt. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Dave Robinson |
| Date Created | 2/24/2003 3:14:03 PM |
| Message | Wandee:
Thanks for the reply. We're still in the planning stages for this Saturday ride, so "keep watching this space." :-)
I'll post a reply to this thread early Friday evening with a go/no-go decision, and some final details. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Ed "Deerslayer" Naidamast |
| Date Created | 2/24/2003 8:12:15 PM |
| Message | Dave, it would seem that since it is a pick up ride you might think you don't need a waiver, but I would strongly suggest you print off a few waivers. Since you're calling for a pick-up ride on the PARR web site, having the waivers will protect the organization and, I imagine, you as well to some extent.
When our buddy Bill rode off the road on a pick-up ride that I coordinated, he hadn't seen anything about the ride on the PARR web site. He just saw us in a parking lot and approached us and asked if he could ride with us. Figuring that's how we get new members we invited him to ride with us for the day. We had no waivers and less than 30 minutes into the ride he failed to negotiate a turn that everyone else went through. He ended up with a few busted ribs and a punctured lung. Wait, it gets better!! When the paramedics arrived he explained that he had nitro pills in his pocket (heart condition) but was feeling no chest pains!! Oh, it gets even better than that!! Later, at the hospital, we learned he didn't even have his motorcycle endorsement!! Talk about placing ourselves at risk, right?
In respect to weather guessers, I learned just how inaccurate they can be when I was flying back end for the Navy off the Eisenhower. Damned weather guys could have used a crystal ball and been more accurate. No matter how nice the day was supposed to be, my carrier always found the biggest, darkest, and ugliest storm cloud to park under!! Truth is that whatever the weather guys call for a seven days out, you can be sure it will change as the week progresses.
Good luck on the ride. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Wandee Kirkland |
| Date Created | 2/25/2003 9:28:16 AM |
| Message | Dave:
Does it matter who signs as witness on the waiver? I want to go ahead and mail it in with my check for the application. I can also bring an extra with me for the pick up ride.
Ed:
I can understand protecting PARR from lawsuits. Too bad about Bill. Hope everything turned out for the better. You would think riders would be a little smarter. |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Dave Robinson |
| Date Created | 2/26/2003 8:41:59 AM |
| Message | Hello, Wandee. I'm no lawyer, but it's probably best that your waiver is signed by someone other than a family member. I believe that one of the PARR members can witness your signature when you show up at your first PARR ride. We're looking forward to meeting you.
Which brings me to my next point--I've decided to not organize the pick-up ride for this Saturday, March 1, because of the additional snowfall today and (expected) Thursday. I was counting on the weather to melt more snow and ice, and dry off the roads, this week. The new precipitation has precluded that outcome. So, rather than hold everyone in suspense, I'll just cancel the ride now.
DANG--when's spring supposed to get here?! :-) |
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| Topic | Re: First Weekend in March |
| Author | Ed "Deerslayer" Naidamast |
| Date Created | 2/27/2003 7:43:02 AM |
| Message | Wandee, don't worry about our buddy, Bill. I was being a bit sarcastic about the fellow. He is not a member of the club and simply rode up to a group of us as we were preparing for a pick-up ride one morning. We had no idea where we were going to travel that day and this fellow asked if he could join us.
He had all the trappings of a biker, although that doesn't necessarily equate to smart riding. He was wearing a sleeveless denim jacket and atop his head was a brain bucket that was smaller than any soup bowl I've ever seen. Moreover, his vintage 1982 Honda had been customized and wasn't in the best of shape.
Ironically, one of our members had discussed the hairpin bend that he failed to negotiate just prior to the mishap. It wasn't until the ambulance arrived that we discovered the fellow had a heart condition and it wasn't until we were at the hospital that we learned he had no motorcycle endorsement on his driver's license.
Good lesson that day--check for the endorsement before allowing a non-club member to ride with you (even if it is not a PARR event, but you organize it through the PARR web site) and have a waiver ready to sign for those who want to ride with us.
Regards,
Ed |
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